SD> Carb carbon

[Dennis & Sherry]

The factory fix for this is as follows from the 3rd ed of the 2.2/2.5 
FWD Speed Secrets book:
>
> 2.2L Carburetor Charcoal Particle Protection Filter (P4286797)
>
> The charcoal canister is sealed. The carburetor vents fuel vapors into 
> the canister to be purged back into the air cleaner/carburetor when 
> the engine is running., See Figure 3-96. In rallying, the car takes a 
> serious beating and can pound the canister so hard that the charcoal 
> inside disintegrates into very small particles. Now these particles 
> can be pulled into the carburetor when the engine is running. The 
> charcoal particles in the carburetor tend to plug the jets and other 
> metering orifices to the point that the engine will hardly run.
>
> Insert these filters from/ /this package between the canister and the 
> carburetor with the arrow on the filter pointing toward the carburetor 
> as shown in the figure. It is recommended that the filters be changed 
> after each "rough" rally.
>
> The hoses used in this system are specially manufactured and if 
> replacement becomes necessary it is important to use only fuel 
> resistant hose.
>
Regular clear plastic filters seem to work OK as well.
Let me know if you want me to scan the figure for you.

Dennis L. Cote
Delhi, CA



>> From: BermudianCoB at aol.com
>> Subject: SD> help with carb problems
>>
>> Help!  I'm still having trouble with my carb on my 83 1/2 carbed SC.  Have 
>> spent tons getting it rebuilt and readjusted.  Ran fairly decent over summer but 
>> now as cold weather hits, it wants to stick on fast idle all the time.  I've 
>> tried all the usual fixes.  I know these carbs were bad, even when new, and I 
>> don't have a ton of money to buy a lot of new stuff ... so any body have any 
>> help for this old guy who just loves my SC but gets weary of these carb 
>> problems!
>>
>> Thanks!  Larry Dentler
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>>
>> From: amoparx at comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: SD> help with carb problems
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>> This may be a long shot, but when I had an 83 Charger about 150 years ago, I had a tendency to overfill the gas.  This would get fuel in the charcal cannister.  That would somehow (and I don't remember how) get charcal pieces in the carb and screw it up.  I even got a new cannister way back then and had a mechanic at the dealership ask if I knew why the cannister went bad.  I said, "Yeah, from overfilling the tank". (topping it off)  He said "exactly"!  In your rebuilds, did you ever notice any little chunks of charcal?  Have you ever overfilled the tank?  A long shot, but I thought I'd tell you about my experience.  
>> Good Luck.
>>
>> Bob Doherty  http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm 
>> Coon Rapids, MN. 
>>
>> -------------- Original message -------------- 
>> From: BermudianCoB at aol.com 
>> > Help! I'm still having trouble with my carb on my 83 1/2 carbed SC. Have 
>> > spent tons getting it rebuilt and readjusted. Ran fairly decent over summer but 
>> > now as cold weather hits, it wants to stick on fast idle all the time. I've 
>> > tried all the usual fixes. I know these carbs were bad, even when new, and I 
>> > don't have a ton of money to buy a lot of new stuff ... so any body have any 
>> > help for this old guy who just loves my SC but gets weary of these carb 
>> > problems! 
>> > 
>> > Thanks! Larry Dentler
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>
> From: swedeis at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: SD> help with carb problems
>
> Add a fuel filter on the line from the carb to the charcoal canister.
>
> Honestly, the carbs aren't very well cast and tend to warp just in usual use.  The only real solution is to move to a better carb or fuel injection (megasquirt FTW!)
>
> Good luck, Stefan
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: amoparx at comcast.net
>   
>> > This may be a long shot, but when I had an 83 Charger about 150 years ago, I had 
>> > a tendency to overfill the gas.  This would get fuel in the charcal cannister.  
>> > That would somehow (and I don't remember how) get charcal pieces in the carb and 
>> > screw it up.  I even got a new cannister way back then and had a mechanic at the 
>> > dealership ask if I knew why the cannister went bad.  I said, "Yeah, from 
>> > overfilling the tank". (topping it off)  He said "exactly"!  In your rebuilds, 
>> > did you ever notice any little chunks of charcal?  Have you ever overfilled the 
>> > tank?  A long shot, but I thought I'd tell you about my experience.  
>> > Good Luck.
>> > 
>> > Bob Doherty  http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm 
>> > Coon Rapids, MN. 
>> > 
>> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
>> > From: BermudianCoB at aol.com 
>> > 
>>     
>>> > > Help! I'm still having trouble with my carb on my 83 1/2 carbed SC. Have 
>>> > > spent tons getting it rebuilt and readjusted. Ran fairly decent over summer 
>>>       
>> > but 
>>     
>>> > > now as cold weather hits, it wants to stick on fast idle all the time. I've 
>>> > > tried all the usual fixes. I know these carbs were bad, even when new, and I 
>>> > > don't have a ton of money to buy a lot of new stuff ... so any body have any 
>>> > > help for this old guy who just loves my SC but gets weary of these carb 
>>> > > problems! 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Thanks! Larry Dentler 
>>> > > 83 1/2 Shelby Charger
>>> > > 89 Shelby Dakota