SD> l-body suspension Questions

[Rich Bryant]

Here is another that has a better picture of the book.  The other seems 
like an old version or something based on teh cover since it doesn't even 
mention the 2.5.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOPAR-Performance-Parts-2-2-2-5-FWD-Engine-Book_W0QQitemZ320222250535QQcmdZViewItem

-Rich




On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Rich Bryant wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:24:44 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Rich Bryant <rbryant at sdf.lonestar.org>
> To: Mike D. <turboshelbydodge at hotmail.com>
> Cc: shelbydodge at imagilist.com
> Subject: Re: SD> l-body suspension Questions
> 
>
> The Mopar 2.2/2.5 Performance book is a decent read if you are just getting 
> into these cars.  It hink the 4th edition is the latest.
>
> Here is one cheap:
>
> http://shopping.msn.com/Prices/shp/?itemId=56311127
>
> -Rich
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Mike D. wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:21:56 -0400
>> From: Mike D. <turboshelbydodge at hotmail.com>
>> To: shelbydodge at imagilist.com
>> Subject: Re: SD> l-body suspension Questions
>> 
>> 
>> Stefan:
>> 
>> Any books that you recommend specifically?
>> 
>> I finally started autocrossing last year with a 2005 neon (I know, 1st gens 
>> are lighter).  So this is now, more than ever, a subject of interest for 
>> me.
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Mike
>> '87 CSX  #481 (stagnant mechanical restoration project)
>> '05 neon sxt
>> 
>>> From: swedeis at comcast.net
>>> To: peachey140 at yahoo.com; shelbydodge at imagilist.com
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:14:41 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: SD> l-body suspension Questions
>>> 
>>> Buy Koni's. There isn't anything else available that will give you what
>>> you're looking for at that price point.  They will make the biggest
>>> improvement in the car outside of tires and proper maintenance.  KYB 
>>> GR-2's
>>> are simply OEM replacements about on par with a lot of parts store pieces.
>>> 
>>> You can't run much higher spring rates without struts valved to control 
>>> them
>>> (or you'll end up pogo-sticking your way around town)
>>> 
>>> Strut bars are nice once you get stiffer struts and springs, until then 
>>> you
>>> really aren't in need of them unless you're racing the car every weekend 
>>> or
>>> you notice the firewall is cracking or the inner fenderwell is separating
>>> from the frame rail.  Even then the strut tower bar won't solve the 
>>> problem,
>>> you'd need to repair the cracks or failed spot welds.
>>> 
>>> Swaybars aren't a bad idea, but they are a double edged sword.  They tend 
>>> to
>>> bind the suspension movement, artificially increasing the spring rate to
>>> near infinity, making the car inconsistent in handling as the tires will
>>> break traction shortly after the spring rate goes to infinity.  However 
>>> for
>>> autocross they work well since sway bars improve the transitional effect 
>>> of
>>> the car at the expense of steady state cornering.
>>> 
>>> I would highly suggest reading all the books you can on suspension tuning
>>> and design as well as performance driving before choosing spring rates,
>>> struts and sway bar sizes.  Suspension tuning is almost as much about the
>>> driver and their driving style than it is about specific parts.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, rebuild the suspension using good replacement parts, a better
>>> alignment and put on a good set of tires.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> Stefan
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: shelbydodge-bounces+swedeis=comcast.net at imagilist.com
>>> [mailto:shelbydodge-bounces+swedeis=comcast.net at imagilist.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of
>>> james peachey
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 3:47 PM
>>> To: shelbydodge at imagilist.com
>>> Subject: SD> l-body suspension Questions
>>> 
>>> Im looking at upgrading the suspension on my shelby
>>> charger. I want it to handle like its on rails but
>>> dont have the money for konis. I have around 800 to
>>> spend on the suspension and need some advice.
>>> 
>>> Whats a good replacement strut/shock?
>>> 
>>> Whats a good aggressive spring rate?
>>> 
>>> What about swaybars and strut tower bars?
>>> 
>>> This will be a Daily driver but I dont care about
>>> comfort. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
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